During the 1960s/70s, already famous and respected professor,
philosopher, theologian and educator, writer of numerous books, polymath, and
polyglot, Huberto Rohden was frequently asked for interviews and lectures by
the Brazilian media. Among some, the television interviews given by the famous
Brazilian journalist Xênia Bier stand out.
In the interviews, Rohden, always very informal and in a good
mood, discusses the works of Joel Goldsmith on the art of spiritual healing and
Dr Victor Frankl, famous Austrian neurologist on healing through Logotherapy.
Below is an excerpt of his comments on the questions.
In the November 1976 interview on the art of healing by the
power of the spirit, he says that the author insists that there is only one
power - in the sense of physical well-being, there are no two, a positive power
called life and health and a negative one, called death and illness. This is a
human invention. It is no use fighting darkness; it is necessary to affirm the
light. It's Goldsmith's thesis. He healed a lot of people with this form of
therapy.
For example, Xenia, and to draw a parallel to this process;
someone enters a completely dark room and says:
My God! This room is in complete darkness! Let's sweep out the
darkness... quickly, get a broom! Sweep the darkness out!... But the darkness
remains because it doesn't work that way. So, let's try it with a sword... Take
a sword, cut into pieces the darkness of this room. And the room remains
completely dark. That's what humanity is doing. Incessantly fights the negative
and does not affirm the positive. This is what Goldsmith's book The Art of
Spiritual Healing is about. He has healed many people for over 30 years, just
making them aware of the only positive power in the Universe. But it is
difficult for a man to accept this positive power, for he always thinks that
there is a negative power called death, sin, disease. The man only sees the
negative and forgets the positive.
And Goldsmith, after a lot of experience with this kind of
treatment, says that it is useless to focus on the negative power called
disease. It must be powerfully affirmed that there is only one positive power:
life, health, joy, and happiness. Whether someone succeeds or not is a problem
because almost all men embody the spirit of Don Quixote.
Don Quixote once fought an entire night on the plains of Holland
against an enemy regiment, and because he was fearless, he defeated an entire
regiment in one night. And at dawn, he went to inspect the battlefield to see
how many casualties there were... And he didn't find any, only pieces of broken
windmills. He thought those windmill wings that fluttered in the night were the
enemies. And he broke all the windmills that were in front of him. That's what
humanity does today. Fight against an imaginary enemy. But there was no enemy;
it was just an innocent windmill. Windmills are called diseases, and man has to
fight diseases, ending illnesses, but there was no illness... It was just bad
health; it wasn't a disease.
It's straightforward to defeat the darkness; light a match! So,
where did the darkness go? The man is playing the role of a naive Don Quixote.
It is necessary to affirm, to powerfully raise the consciousness of the only
power in the Universe, which is life and health.
But, as man does not know how to affirm the positive, he fights
the negative.
Illness is an absence, and health is a presence. Light is
presence, and darkness is absence. Man cannot fight an absence; only presence
can be affirmed. This is pure logic; this is pure math! It is not possible to
combat an absence called illness; it is essential to affirm a presence called
life and health. That's what Goldsmith's book teaches.
The Art of Spiritual Healing should not be read, much less
devoured; it should be ruminated. Ruminate and assimilate.
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Next, the interviewer, Xênia asks: Is Frankl's Logotherapy or
Goldsmith's method being practised on a large scale?
Rohden says no, as both therapies are very advanced healing
projects for the stage of man still far removed from spiritual principles. It's
not possible... man only knows two forms of therapies: Somatotherapy – healing
for the body, and Psychotherapy – healing for the mind.
Nowadays, there is a third form, Logotherapy, which is being
practised; however, the result depends much more on the receiver than on the
sender. For example, if a broadcasting station emits powerful electronic waves
and there is no receiver to receive these waves, absolutely nothing happens.
And that's what's happening; there are no receivers for the Logotherapy emitter
vibrations...
There may be a powerful healing emitter, but if there is no
receiver receiving these healing waves, nothing happens because the effect
depends on the receiver. The broadcasting station can broadcast, but if there
is no receiver tuned to the same frequency, the tuning breaks and falls into
emptiness.
It so happens that with Logotherapy, which is the sum of mental,
emotional and spiritual healing emanations, only those with the appropriate
receiving ability to tune into healing and be cured are reached. People who
have faith in this therapy proposal, but who are few
If humanity were more prepared to receive these waves,
Logotherapy would be more successful. Unfortunately, most humanity is typically
material and mental, and very few individuals can respond to spiritual
vibrations.
For more than 20 centuries, the education of humanity within
Western Christianity was not designed in this sense. All education and
civilization are materialistic and mentalistic. These are waves of a much
inferior character. Today, we don't have a spiritual civilization. This
civilization is being projected only slowly, but only individually; society
does not react to this proposal.
As
Victor Frankl says, the human mind is hypnotized, in collective hypnosis that
only reacts through external stimuli, which come from outside. We cannot start
a new education in a few years. It takes centuries and millennia to surpass the
education received in the last 2 millennia. We can minimize and surpass – we
don't have to neutralize anything, but we must surpass. We don't have to
destroy our past education; we must complete, surpass, perfect, evolve all of
our past education. However, this is the problem of many centuries and
millennia.
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